Xenforo is faster

Discussion in 'Forum Software' started by Krazy12, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. zappaDPJ

    zappaDPJ Administrator

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    Was that the same with previous versions (caching guest pages)?
     
  2. doubt

    doubt Tazmanian

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    Ignoring the rest of the sentence: Yes.
     
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  3. zappaDPJ

    zappaDPJ Administrator

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    It's something I never noticed even on large active forums including my own. I often used to log out to see how my forums appeared to a guest and if there was a disparity in the response time it was never at all obvious.
     
  4. Shimei

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    I visited your forum for the first time and it loaded between 3-4 seconds. I am located in California though.

    Quite a difference between our forums (I'm using VB 5.4) regarding page size. Also, I noticed you're using Canadian Test Server Region. Any reason for that?

    CF.jpg
     
  5. Dubbed Navigator

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    At the moment they are, look at the ratio of free / paid on XF1 mods - I dont think it would be unreasonable to assume that once developers have a framework for thier mods they can reuse that it will go the same way.
     
  6. zappaDPJ

    zappaDPJ Administrator

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    As far as I'm aware the test sever location and browser type are automatically selected unless you take out a subscription.
     
  7. Paul M

    Paul M Limeade Addict

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    I dont remember exactly, but some of it has been there since very early versions due to the poor performance.

    From memory, I think there is even a special setting for the homepage caching.
     
  8. Banxix

    Banxix Enthusiast

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    I like the lite / pro model, more resonable for users. Might be easier if you are already using XF 1 or start a new XF 2 forum, but if you want to migrate from other softwares it would not because everything are paid

    https://www.wappalyzer.com/technologies There are still more vB than XF. I believe in this stats more than any above.
     
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  9. Cyburbia

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    Old thread, but for me, XenForo 2 is saving my board. VB 4 was slow, and I’d have to regularly clear caches to keep it from slowing down even more. Server loads were consistently above 1.0, even with little traffic. XenForo — pages load nearly instantly, and server loads are almost always far below 1.0. Should have made the move a year ago.
     
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  10. R0binHood

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    GTMetrix locks you to Canada unless you have a subscription.

    You can choose your location to get a better idea of page speed if your forum is localised using https://tools.pingdom.com/

    I tested a site earlier today and it came in at about 3.5s load time with GTMetrix and a Canadian server, but 0.5s through Pingdom when I chose a London server closer to where the site is hosted
     
  11. mysiteguy

    mysiteguy Devotee

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    It is not really that much an issue, even free GTMetrix accounts let you choose a location.
     
  12. R0binHood

    R0binHood Habitué

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    Ahh, so you can. Last time checked you couldn't. You do need to be a logged in user though.
     
  13. mysiteguy

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    Site speed measuring tools can be a two-edged sword. What matters most is not the scores, but rather how quickly the page renders.

    I can tell you how many times I've heard "my scores are a D and a C, what do I need to do to fix this?" when their pages render in under a couple of seconds. And often, raising their scores might actually increase page render spends! I try to tell people to pay attention to how quick the pages come up, and not to panic over individual items in a score.

    That's not to say some things shouldn't be addressed, but rather spend 20% of your time on the things which take care of 80% of the speed issues, instead of 80% of your time for a 20% (at best) gain.
     
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  14. overcast

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    There are some issues with xenforo though. I often see that xenforo does not post my comment. It often just does nothing when we click on the post reply button.
     
  15. vbgamer45

    vbgamer45 Enthusiast

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  16. Kevin

    Kevin Oooh, something shiny!

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    If that was a XF issue you'd have a bunch of admins complaining, sounds more like a slow server.
     
  17. zappaDPJ

    zappaDPJ Administrator

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    I agree with KevinKevin, that sounds like a server issue or possibly a browser/ad-block issue. I've never seen or heard of the software respond in that way.
     
  18. doubt

    doubt Tazmanian

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    Disable the addons.
    Use the default XF skin.
    Use another browser.

    Can you post your comment now?
     
  19. overcast

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    No idea if it is slow server. I have noticed that here as well. I have also seen that on many other forums too. Some say it's adblocker issue. Some say browser issue. No idea.
     
  20. MagicalAzareal

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    Xenforo.com seems to use Cloudflare, which means that resources are served from where ever is the nearest data-center to the user, while vBulletin.org seems to serve it directly from the origin server which may be very distant from the user.

    Additionally, vBulletin.org is using slow HTTP/1.1 instead of HTTP/2 or HTTP/3.
    Just something to mention. Not an apples to apples comparison.
    Wappalyzer misidentifies many Blackboard / Moodle instances as "MyBB" in it's top sites lists.
    I'm not sure how reliable it really is.
    Any errors in the browser console?
     
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