Xenforo is faster

Discussion in 'Forum Software' started by Krazy12, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. Krazy12

    Krazy12 Enthusiast

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    I am really impressed with the performance of the xenforo. It's quite fast and produces quick results. Being an IPB fan, I wish IPB would work this way.

    What do you say?
    How is VB5 performance?
     
  2. djbaxter

    djbaxter Tazmanian Veteran

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  3. Paul M

    Paul M Limeade Addict

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    Poor.
     
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  4. eva2000

    eva2000 Habitué

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    Xenforo out of the box probably the fastest of the mentioned forum softwares in this thread. Xenforo reminds me of the good old vB 3 days of speed. It's been a real joy squeezing out as much speed out of Xenforo as I can for my Centmin Mod forums which turns 4yrs old in ~3 months !
     
  5. Banxix

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    These answers are somehow showing hatred toward vB.

    Frankly, vB5 before 5.2 was not a stable software, but it has become better and I think it is ready for production right now.
    I do not have chance to benchmark the latest version but it should run fine.

    vB still have built-in Social Groups which I see that XF doesn't, vB5 have an ok Site Builder feature which may save you much time in forum frontpage customization.

    But again, be careful if you have a large forum.
     
  6. djbaxter

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    vB5 is still slooowwwww - a "slug" as I said before. You don't have to be a license owner to see that that, either.

    Go to https://vbulletin.com - see for yourself. One should be able to presume that the company site, run by its own coders and support staff, is putting its best foot forward there, showcasing what vB5 can do as it tries to sell more licenses. But it's still a slug.

    Compare it with https://vbulletin.org - or https://xenforo.com - or any forum site NOT running vB5. The difference in performance is unmistakable.
     
  7. Banxix

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    I was a license holder, not anymore. I was aganist vB5 since its first launch because I really feel bad for a good software. However I think we should be honest and give user a fair choice. Some might still love vB5 because of the site builder, simple enough, you can use it without any addons needed.

    Yet when I saw XF 2 mods, 80% of them are paid.
     
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  8. LeadCrow

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    Just did a compare on GLmetrix. Surprisingly vb5 (5.4.0 in particular) didnt perform noticeably worse.

    The result regarding performance and recommendations was unexpected, but I presume everyone would agree a reason XF is appreciated is a lower footprint and ressource consumption on shared hosting, and higher consumer trust (in KMA, low count of outstanding bug reports).
     
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  9. Banxix

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    We could just exclude vB3 because it is old and does not include large javascript bundle like 3 others.

    When I see IPB page size 3.07MB
     
  10. djbaxter

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    Weird.

    That does not correspond with my user experience for vbulletin.com at all. Moving from one forum to another at vB.com always takes several seconds (very high speed cable internet connection, default browser the latest Firefox). Even posting a simple 3-4 line reply to a thread takes several seconds. Starting a new thread is even slower.

    I would think vBulletin would want to showcase the best features of their latest version. Maybe it's the configuration of their server? That site is a definite slug and I think most people would assume (as I did) that it's vB5 causing the problem, especially since vB.org is on the same server.
     
  11. Banxix

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    Actually on my machine it is as fast as other forums around.
     
  12. LeadCrow

    LeadCrow Apocalypse Admin

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    vbulletin.com is actually running Magento, so results are not indicative of vb.com's forum performance.
     
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  13. djbaxter

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    Really? Now why would a company selling forum software not use their own software on the site dedicated to that software?
     
  14. djbaxter

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    Where did you get this from?

    When I view vbulletin.com I see this at the bottom (footer) right:

     
  15. LeadCrow

    LeadCrow Apocalypse Admin

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    vBS doesnt sell or run a commerce-focused solution.
    I dont remember when they switched to Magento, but it made some sense at the time to split the storefront from the forum since it still had a lot of issues (downtimes, slowdowns, heavy server load and general lag).

    Nowadays it'd be infinitely easier to replace Magento with inhouse code, but I presume they're shy of trying that after the security breaches vb.com got hit with. Either way, the storefront could use a refresh, its look didnt change for years and feels dated now.

    View html source, search for magento.
     
  16. doubt

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    That is for https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/
     
  17. Banxix

    Banxix Enthusiast

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    It's just the selling front page using magento, which is fair.

    Metric results are pointed to the forum directory, not /home.
     
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  19. zappaDPJ

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    The current version of vBulletin (5.4.0) is somewhat faster than it was at launch if viewed as a guest but it slows considerably once you log in and it's still totally unsuitable for a forum with a lot of content or if there's any real degree of activity i.e. http://www.harmonycentral.com/forum/

    hc_vB.jpg
     
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  20. Paul M

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    vB5 will perform reasonably to guests because it caches the guest pages - not the same as if you are a user.

    The sales and marketing pages on vbulletin.com use Magento, and have done since 2012 (I put that system live)

    The forum always runs the latest vB5 version.
     
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