Xenforo 2.1.3 and Tapatalk

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  1. Morg22

    Morg22 Aspirant

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    I am currently setting up a test site with Xenforo 2.1.3, because I am looking to move from VB5. I wanted to know how compatible it is with Tapatalk.

    We are having nothing but issues since upgrading from VB 4.2.5 to VB 5.5.3, including Tapatalk not functioning correctly and a large portion of our users browse our site with Tapatalk, so we have seen a huge decrease in our traffic, which is why we are looking at alternatives to VB5 and so far Xenforo seems to fit what we are looking for.

    The biggest concern I have is how compatible it is with Tapatalk. Has anyone been using 2.1.3 with Tapatalk, and if so how is it working? I just tried to use it for a forum using Xenforo (AVS) and when I tried to read a large thread with 15K posts Tapatalk would just crash on me.

    I have a fairly large forum with over 6 million posts so I have plenty of threads with several thousand posts, and that's one of the issues I a having with Tapatalk now, any of my threads with over 3K posts won't open at all on Tapatalk.

    Any help you all can provide would be greatly appreciate. Thanks so much!
     
  2. hurricane_sh

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    Sounds like a bug on Tapatalk's side, you should report it to them.

    With XF's superb mobile experience, why don't you remove tapatalk?
     
  3. Morg22

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    That is the ultimate goal, but I have a large forum (over 6 million posts) and a significant percentage of my readers access us through Tapatalk, so we need it working.

    I am in constant contact with Tapatalk, but they keep saying the developer is looking into it.
     
  4. hurricane_sh

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    With tapatalk I only trust posting stats. How many posts are made by tapatalk users daily.

    Even tapatalk users are displayed in your online member list, they may be just automate check by Tapatalk, not real visits.
     
  5. Paul Buonopane

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    Keep in mind that unless something has changed, when integrating XenForo 1.x with Tapatalk, you're essentially providing a public API for your forum that bypasses many of the security and spam prevention mechanisms built into XenForo. Additionally, you're sending all your content--public and private--to Tapatalk's servers. I haven't tested this on other forum software or versions, but I assume it's a similar story elsewhere. (The intention was for Tapatalk to look at the user IDs of the people involved and send out push notifications as appropriate, but it was still extremely intrusive, and there are better ways to go about that.)

    Shortly after our forum was featured in Tapatalk, we noticed a surge of suspicious registrations, as well as content from those users that bypassed our spam checks. Further investigation revealed that they were part of a spam campaign that was abusing Tapatalk. Initially we hoped to rewrite the add-on so that it didn't bypass all the spam and security checks in XenForo; however, due to the manner in which Tapatalk interfaced with forums, there was no way for us to run our own checks, and Tapatalk's checks during registration were inadequate.

    Around that time, Tapatalk made a big announcement stating that they were improving security and privacy, but they didn't act accordingly in a timely manner. Eventually we gave up.
     
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  6. Ingenious

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    That maybe should worry you.

    I was in a similar situation with a lot of members of my forum using Tapatalk. The perception was that removing it would cause great harm, however after I ditched it there wasn't really much in the way of complaints and everyone is now fine using the responsive web version.

    I agree with Paul above, the privacy implications could be worrying.
     
  7. Paul Buonopane

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    We were also concerned about removing it, but, after digging through various metrics, we discovered that almost all of our Tapatalk traffic was automated or otherwise low-quality. Only a handful of our legitimate users ever even noticed.
     
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