Discussion in 'WoltLab Burning Board' started by WBB, Jan 12, 2017.
Where three months after the release of Burning Board 5.0 and WS 3.0.. What do people think about it? i'm pretty happy about the new suite..Most addons are coming along...
Sucks they turned off the demo.
Bound to happen, same thing is going to happen with the XF2 demo.
Congrats on the release
I'd like to hear more from WoltLab users as well. Seems there are a great many XF and vB users here at TAZ, but not much is said by those using WoltLab Suite. I am still undecided about my pending conversion from vB 3.8 to another product. I am leaning toward either WoltLab or IPS because they have more complete packages. I hate relying on 3rd party apps when it comes to major components, like a fully integrated CMS. If XF had that option, it would be an easier answer.
I think thats because woltlab is an German product, its great, but i also think it scares off allot of people.. And then you also have those and are using Xen/IPB for years and don't know any products because they don't need them.
Also the bigger addons on woltlab are cheaper then those on Xen or IPB as is the main license cost.
You only pay $45 ~ / 2 years(after the inital license) for getting a new major version + 2 years of updates
The beta demo site had run its course once it got released as final version.
Same will happen with XF2 demo site when it goes public release
I use all 3, and like features of each. I haven't upgraded the WBB site to the latest as I'm still debating whether I want to keep it online or not (same with my XenForo site).
For my WBB site, I use an article style add-on to fulfill the CMS needs (similar to AMS on XenForo). I've been contemplating if I take the XenForo site offline just moving that script over to my WBB site as it's somewhat of a pain keeping up with 3 different scripts and how to do the customizations that I normally do.
I was hoping to get feedback from those using the latest version of WoltLab Suite. I'm not interested in add-ons or plugins to fulfill my CMS needs. I have been dealing with that for over 10 years using vBulletin (I've got no interest at all in versions greater than 3.8.x). Most recently, I've been using WordPress for one of my sites. It's a great CMS, maybe one of the best, but it's not fully integrated with any quality forum software without 3rd party support. I don't want that. That's why I have narrowed my choices to WoltLab and IPS suites - their latest versions only (no interest at all in prior versions of those products).
Sorry for any confusion.
I should have clarified... I have the forum and the Blog (which in the version I have would correspond to your CMS statement) and chose to NOT use the blog as it's not really that "handy" and went with a better designed add-on for what I needed.
I realize the latest version has an "articles" type system at it's base - but really it's not that much of an upgrade to it from my testing and exposure to it.
The biggest issue with it is that it's still a German centric support site and you can get some assistance when needed, but it's harder to come by than with either IPS or XenForo.
Thats one of the negative points, the other one is that the addon eco system is a bit more decentral, there is a a plugin store, but not all the addons can be found there, some addon creators only sell addons via theire own shop...
That's not something that really effects me as the same situation is present in IPS and XenForo.
Jim, I've been nothing but pleased with Burning Board. I've been running it since June of last year when I moved from vB 4.1.2. Rock solid and loads very quick, after moving from vB I noticed just how much faster pages load with Burning Board over vB.
From which VB version did you Migrate?
4.1.2 which was and is the crappiest version of vB known to man. ;-) I couldn't move back to vB 3.8 after words and was stuck.
Thanks. Can you share a link to your site (privately, if you don't want to make it public)? What plugins are you using?
I've used WBB for a short time, is good software, but the time that I used it, was difficult to participate in their forums as only a few posts were in English (but the official support is great and ofcourse they speak fluent English).
There is dark point only on their renewal rules. eg I've ver. 4.0.3 and wanted to upgrade to 4.1 only, while the current is 5.0. I can't do it. I must pay the upgrade price to 5.0. Normal. What I found ubnormal is that first I need to pay to upgrade to 4.1 and then from 4.1 to 5.0. I nowhere found it. eg I renewed xF after 3 years of inactivity and I paid only for the current version and for 1 year support and upgrades ahead. They didn't asked me to pay for the past 3 years.
PS: ver.5 seems to be very good, just take in account that only very few addons have upgraded to this version.
If you want to see BB 5.0 in the real world, check out https://home-theater.be , runs on burning board 5, small board, but lightning fast
There is no direct upgrade path from 4.0 to 5.0, instead you'll need to upgrade from 4.0 -> 4.1 and then 4.1 -> 5.0. Both processes run straight from the ACP though, so it is quite easy but adds a bit more burden as if you would upgrade 4.0 -> 5.0 in one step.
The upgrade cost however is based entirely on which version your license had access to last. The biggest saving comes with licenses that already have access to 4.1, whereas you would pay a bit more if you only have access to 4.0. So if you're upgrading your license from 4.0 today, you would pay less than a new license *and* less than 4.0 -> 4.1 + 4.1 -> 5.0.
Jim McClain The Core itself is free and ships with the entire CMS, which is designed to be used by anybody, regardless of their technical background. You've mentioned WordPress which was somewhat our goal in terms of simplicity in usage, so you should be able to quickly set up pages. In case you want to dive deeper, you can still opt-in to create pages using raw HTML.