Will humans become cyborgs?

Discussion in 'Internet and Technology' started by CarpCharacin, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. CarpCharacin

    CarpCharacin Habitué

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    A deep neurostimulator? Those have been around since 1987.
     
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  2. Wes of StarArmy

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    The people use have them implanted are are a form of cyborg. They're part human, part technology. People with pacemakers are also cyborgs.

    In other words, there's cyborg people are already around us. In the future we'll probably see more of them.
     
  3. CarpCharacin

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    I am talking about cognitive enhancement, cutting off limbs and replacing them with bionic implants etc. Peg legs could be considered technology and they have been around for hundreds of years.
     
  4. Wes of StarArmy

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    Perhaps you should have said that in the OP instead of making such a low-effort post.
     
  5. Tracy Perry

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    Powered prosthetics ring a bell?
    one of the definitions of a "cyborg"
    Think any of these fit the bill of the above definition.

    https://news.ncsu.edu/2015/09/huang-autotune-2015/
    http://www.trsprosthetics.com/
    http://biomech.media.mit.edu/portfolio_page/cseaknee/
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/health/paralysis-limb-reanimation-brain-chip.html?_r=0
     
  6. davemacc

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    I think your major problem is that you are worried about cybernetic enhancements which are used to upgrade humans. To be honest I can't see that in the near future. At the minute the concentration for implants and prosthetics is for people who have suffered life altering, debilitating injuries diseases or who were born with severe physical disabilities.

    Enhancements for military personnel currently focuses on exoskeleton technology as it is easier to implement and more cost effective as the exoskeleton should be interchangeable between users.

    What should be of more concern at this minute in time is the proliferation of autonomous drone technology. At the minute there is still a human at the controls during combat operations but speculation is that it is only a matter of time before the responsibility of when to engage is transferred to AI systems embedded within the drones.
     
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  7. CarpCharacin

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    Exactly. I am worried abut enhancements.
     
  8. Ummagumma

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  9. CarpCharacin

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    There is a massive difference between AI that can learn to perform tasks and an AI that can learn to think on its own. Sure, AI is getting better at learning to perform tasks, but it isn't aware if itself performing those tasks. Sure it is possible to simulate a worm "brain" in a computer, but it wold be impossible either way to simulate a human brain in a computer. It would be impossible to meet the computing requirements. Transistor size shrinking is approaching its limit. The worm brain that was simulated wasn't really a brain. It was more of an autonomic nervous system. I seriously doubt that 302 neurons could produce consciousness. If it were possible to simulate a human brain, it still dosen't mean that a computer could simulate it. http://singularityhub.com/2013/03/1...il-singularity-prediction-a-bunch-of-hot-air/
     
  10. davemacc

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    How do you define when a computer begins to 'think for itself'.
    We are getting to a point now where systems can analyse data sets, previous actions against outcomes, run complex simulations based on previously know variables and results and come to and apply those results to real world decisions. It happens all the time in banking and securities exchange. The difference is that they don't call it AI, they call it machine learning.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_learning

    It is still a form of AI and the worrying thing is that in a lot of situations humans honestly no longer actually understand how the computers are making their decisions. It can and has had disastrous results such as the flash crash in 2010
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Flash_Crash

    There is still huge speculation as to the exact cause of the crash on that day.
    Listen to the panic from the commentary as it happened.
     
  11. CarpCharacin

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    Conscious, aware of its surroundings
     
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