My forums are in dire need of a refresh but I'm stuck on what to do! vBulletin seems a bit of a disaster zone vb4/5 don't inspire me, vb.org mods/styles seem to hardly get updated and its still running on vb3?! Most things appear to be abandoned. vBSEO= abandoned, Photopost stuck in year 2000, almost abandoned. So thats all the stuff I currently run... Now lets look around at others... XenForo, looked so promising, now abandoned. IPB - I keep going back to this, but I've just been browsing the support forums and it just wasn't working for me! PHPBB, logged on there and I don't think it has been updated for 10 years, it almost looks like myspace MyBB/Simple machines, both look severely dated! So thats as far as I've got. Is there really such a lack of innovation going on or am I missing the next big thing? Is there another level of quality forum software that I need to know about? I don't want to pay more than $400 really, but if something out there is really really good then it would be considered. I've not been keeping up with all developments so the above is just my impression after browsing the last couple of days.