That's true. However, I'm constantly informed that stuff that "only requires a template edit" in vBulletin, means the entire product is a complete failure. So maybe we should be applying consistent standards here. Also, although it's only a simple fix, I've yet to see a site running XF that's actually done it. So it remains an issue. Forum software in general, urgently needs to stop trying to make every page look like Facebook. Contrary to what now seems to be accepted belief, web users can generally cope with sites that don't look like Facebook.