Upcoming Facebook Changes

Discussion in 'Facebook' started by Lisa, Jun 29, 2019.

  1. Lisa

    Lisa Chaotically Proportional

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    They've already removed the ability to share to your own timeline from your page in the normal way. To get around it you have to copy the url to the post and manually stick it in a post on your timeline to share it.
     
  2. Lisa

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    What they want is for you to make your pages admins of your groups - they're integrating a lot between pages and groups.
     
  3. MagicalAzareal

    MagicalAzareal Magical Developer

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    Always make backups, the internet is not reliable.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-customer-accounts-for-reselling-pixel-phones
    Big Tech has kind of always been like this, if you do something that Google doesn't like, then they don't just ban you from one site, they ban you from all their sites, even for something which is incomparably minor compared to losing access to all your files, emails, etc.
     
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  4. PoetJC

    PoetJC ⚧ Jacquii: Black Kween of TSSN ⚧

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    One of the BEST pieces of advice that I've ever seen posted on TAZ.

    I'm so happy you shared this info Lisa - It has been a GREAT benefit and a wonderful tutorial on successfully promoting a project via Facebook!
    And I'm happy to say - I've taken this advise and have been networking the hell outta FB for the past couple days. I've had a lot of success and hoping for much more. In fact - just got the notice that my page has 400+ likes, 140 or so of them within the past couple days thanks to this advise you've posted!

    I've just made a post of gratitude for my subscribers:
    400-likes.png

    So... Thank you thank you thank you - Thanks so much! :love:

    J.
     
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  5. Lisa

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    You're very welcome :love:
     
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  6. rmhartman

    rmhartman Neophyte

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    It's interesting that they want to hold group mods responsible for what is posted on the group pages ... when we have no way of holding *them* responsible for what is being posted on facebook. Are they not the ultimate moderators for that site? This actually seems to be a move to shift responsibility. Possibly *legal* responsibility.

    Note that in the long past (think dial up BBS systems) "safe harbor" meant -- very drastically summarized -- that if you let posts stand, they were the responsiblity of the poster. If you started trying to moderate for content (not an objective standard such as obscene language, but the more subjective kinds of things like "unacceptable ideas") then YOU the moderator became responsible for everything that you let remain.

    US Code governing this was long ago gutted by a "good samaritan" clause.

    any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; orNote the "otherwise objectionable" catch-all. They can remove ANYTHING under that guise, and not be held responsible.

    "I don't like global warming, so your discussion of your Ford F150 carbon spewer is objectionable"
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    "Orange Man Bad"

    So ... since FB has been removing (and shadow banning) "objectionable" content for ages, they are now attempting to shift the responsibility. a) move everything to group pages, b) make the group mods responsible.

    This just occurred to me ... but ... what do y'all think?
     
  7. rmhartman

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    Start making secondary accounts to use for group moderation ...
     
  8. Paul R. Williams

    Paul R. Williams Neophyte

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    I am surprised and not surprised. Zuckerberg is the owner- but these new rules are being imposed by outsiders. Now one thing I am going to like. They will take away everyone's freedom to use profanity. I DO like that. I am not a fan and never was. Everything from the f-bomb to all other words used by people to express something they have no other words for. If you have that limited of a vocabulary you belong out in space where you cannot breathe or be a menace to others. Folks who really do not want the rules to change are probably people whose every other word is the f-bomb. I don't want you on facebook- and you won't be here long, according to the new rules.
     
  9. Paul R. Williams

    Paul R. Williams Neophyte

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    I agree with you- they need to leave our accounts and photos and things that indicate what our values are... alone!
     
  10. Tony Vickers

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    Time for USENET to return!
     
  11. Lisa

    Lisa Chaotically Proportional

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    I can't actually decide whether you're serious or not. Profanity does not, in any way, mean the user is unintelligent.
     
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  12. Drastic

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    I got a 30 day ban for posting a Tide Pod meme. Appealed it. Hour later they reversed it. Oh..... but they forgot to lift the ban when they reversed their decision and put my meme post back.

    You really need to be a good little boy or girl on FB and getting anyone to leave is like the equivalent of asking them to walk on nails, naked, at 5am with no coffee, in the middle of a blizzard while their hair is on fire and there's a yard stick where the sun doesn't shine.

    Social media just has that grip on people and the overall laziness and fear of leaving that the common people have is honestly disturbing.

    We have created a society filled with mindless people who won't venture out of their own comfort zone, even on their phone. Very bizarre and quite sad.
     
  13. zappaDPJ

    zappaDPJ Administrator

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    Without coffee? You cannot be serious! :censored:
     
  14. Lisa

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    Just as an update and a "BE AWARE" notice, we're now seeing people getting 30 day bans for things they posted years ago. A friend got nailed for an image she shared five years ago as now being against their TOS.
     
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  15. Hirumako

    Hirumako Neophyte

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    Hey, I'm just looking for the original post by facebook which lists all of these changements, can someone give me the URL please ? Thanks !
     
  16. Lisa

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    It wasn't a post, it was a conference which Zuckerberg gave a talk at. There is a video of it, but it's in a private group (as explained in the opening post of this thread). What I posted originally is a section of the document shared in a group, which transcribed the pertinent points from the video. There's a link to the document in its entirety within this thread somewhere.
     
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  17. Hirumako

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    Okay thanks, (I don't speak english very well sorry I didn't noticed)
     
  18. Lisa

    Lisa Chaotically Proportional

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    No problem :) It was a long post lol
     
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  19. Alfa1

    Alfa1 Administrator

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    So is there any pushback or fallout in response to these extreme changes?
     
  20. Mattit

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    I created a FB group called "Upcoming Changes Discussion" that is a FB version of this discussion -- https://www.facebook.com/groups/upcomingchanges/. I separated each point into its own post so people can discuss it. I also did a bit of research to get more information on this whole issue (and to show that this wasn't just some type of conspiracy theory type thing). I linked back to this discussion, with a strong recommendation to read through it. I also linked to the document on the G-drive, in case anyone wanted it. And then, I created a list of links to point to various information about the changes and FB's TOS and CS. The bottom of the F8 2019 summary has downloadable versions of the the different speeches, including Zuck's keynote speech.

    "Remove, Reduce, Inform" policy summary - https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2019/04/remove-reduce-inform-new-steps/
    Facebook Group Admins group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/facebookgroupadmins/
    Article from Consumer Reports - https://www.consumerreports.org/social-media/facebook-new-design-and-features-same-privacy-concerns/
    Article from Trendy Hospitality - https://www.trendyhospitality.com/facebook-group-changes/
    Facebook F8 2019 summary and video links - https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2019/04/f8-2019-day-1/
    Facebook F8 2019 Press Kit (Dropbox) - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v5h9jdgy6jjjyrr/AAATPJvLHMEhNGAcDd2GNUjla?dl=0
    Facebook Community Standards (CS) - https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/
    Facebook Terms of Service (TOS) - https://www.facebook.com/terms
    Facebook news update blog - https://newsroom.fb.com/news/

    I'm not sure why this isn't working, so, I'll separate it -
    Facebook Group Management for Admins - https://www.facebook.com/ help/ 1686671141596230/
     
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