Featured Official Guidelines for XenForo 3rd Party Resources

Discussion in 'XenForo' started by Chris D, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer

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    We've added some clarification on XF.com about the minimum standards we expect from developers who release resources and clarified that we will take action against any resources found to be falling short of the standards expected.

    https://xenforo.com/community/threads/resource-standards-guidelines-published.150017/

    It's not the full code review that a few people are pushing towards, but it's a start, and provides a much more clear reference point for developers to understand what the expectations are.
     
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  2. The Sandman

    The Sandman Administrator

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    Does this represent a change in the way 3rd party resources are being handled by Team Xenforo, or is it simply a clarification (or amplification) of things that were already in place?
     
  3. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer

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    Just a clarification.
     
  4. Freelancer

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    Well received. I criticized the XF team directly for the missing clarification and rules in the past and therefore I can also express my appreciation for this change. A step into the right direction.
     
  5. we_are_borg

    we_are_borg Moderator

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    If its a clarification then this was all ready in place. But its good to see some rules out there now a customer has at least something that developers need to keep track off. Chris DChris D i only have one question, what about paid add-ons that are listed on XF but where you have no access to how are these looked at? Rules on paper are good but if their not in forced then its not worth anything.
     
  6. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer

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    If we needed to, we would ask an author to provide the code to us. If they refused this, they wouldn't be welcome to list their add-on(s) with us anymore.
     
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  7. we_are_borg

    we_are_borg Moderator

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    Thank you Chris that's real clear language.
     
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  8. Mouth

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    Will the same basic principles be expected of dev's that spruik their services via https://xenforo.com/community/forums/third-party-services-offers.42/ or https://xenforo.com/community/forums/custom-service-development-requests.69/ ?
    E.g. If concerns are raised with XF about the quality of work from a dev that advertises their services on XenForo.com, but doesn't actually have any resources listed in the RM, will the dev be approached and their thread/post potentially be actioned in the same way a resource(s) might?
     
  9. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer

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    Yes, we would, if there was evidence of it.

    What we wouldn’t want to see something which we’ve seen recently whereby someone new comes along and they’re absolutely annhilated by a welcome committee of finger pointing and accusations and demands to prove themselves.

    There’s a few members at the minute who are creating a fairly hostile environment especially towards new comers.
     
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  10. we_are_borg

    we_are_borg Moderator

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    Chris DChris D its not the code review people are asking for as you said in the first post. But has XF thought about the following, a certificate that developers can get when they submit their add-on for code review. It will cost some money to get that certificate but there are benefits like a badge on XF in XFRM a special seal etc and bragging rights. So when developers have that certificate they are in a better position then without. The only thing you’ll need to do is by making a price so you don’t lose money as company.
     
  11. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer

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    We've thought about lots of approaches, including something very similar to that. These guidelines aren't the end of it. It will likely evolve into something else, one day.
     
  12. The Sandman

    The Sandman Administrator

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    Once bitten, twice shy.
     
  13. LeadCrow

    LeadCrow Apocalypse Admin

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    And making sure these certifications are not transferable, wether to someone acquiring control of the forum account or accounts merging, and addons changing ownership have to earn back reputation from that point since the quality and safety assurance of certification would be lost.
    Otherwise, what's to stop a newbie from buying a popular addon from a certified developper and running it into the ground while its still riding its still unaffected high ratings?
     
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  14. we_are_borg

    we_are_borg Moderator

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    If you make something like this then the certificate is governed by lots of rules and the one that you say would make perfect sense. Also don’t for get new updates of the addon are also checked not as heavy as the first one but a diff and highlight what changed. So it would be a no no to transfer a certificate trying to do so would mean you lose certificate and you can’t apply for another one. It also means that add-on can be checked at random a full audit if you break the rules you only get one warning after that its over. Certificate rules need to be strict and uphold else its worth nothing.
     
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