As in, one where everything was done right yet the site still failed? Because I've seen a few forums like that. They've got a great userbase with some good staff running the show. The theme looks brilliant and matches the topic to a tee. The promotional methods used should be massively successful for the site. Yet after all this it still fails. Somehow, the crappy free hosted forum with minimum effort takes off while the beautiful looking pet project with hours of effort put into it fails miserably. I don't know, but I've seen this happen quite a few times now. So what about you? Have you ever seen a fantastic forum fail despite seemingly doing everything right? Or for the most part, has the activity of every forum you've seen mostly correlated with the amount of effort put into running it? Post what you think (as well as examples of said forums) here!