Don't suppose anyone here has any contacts at YouTube?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Lisa, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. Lisa

    Lisa Chaotically Proportional

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    He's eighteen next month. His mother knows what he's doing, she commented on one of his videos. He told her "**** off".

    Appreciate your sympathetic support, thanks. I'll just go out to the money tree I keep in my garden to pay for the lawyer. Be right back.

    But for the record, we did seek legal advice back when it all started - their advice was to go to the police.
     
  2. sbjsbj

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  3. Lisa

    Lisa Chaotically Proportional

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  4. sbjsbj

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    Says the woman who has an avatar where a girl is licking a bloody knife and who is asking random people on the internet if they know anybody from Youtube while her daughter gets harassed by a scum.

    Again, when children are involved, it is serious. Get serious help.
     
  5. Lisa

    Lisa Chaotically Proportional

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    Pretty sure my avatar has absolutely no relevance.

    All I actually asked was whether anyone had a direct contact at YouTube I could speak to. I gave the history because I knew people would ask why I wanted it and it was easier to post it all up at the beginning.

    I repeat - I did get legal advice initially. The advice was to go to the police. I went to the police. They said go to Youtube. I went to YouTube using their various report functions with little success. So now I'm looking for a direct contact to speak to an actual person.

    So, unless you actually have anything useful to say....

    And no, insulting me doesn't count. It doesn't bother me, so if it makes you happy feel free to continue, just as I, from hereon, will ignore you.

    Have a nice day.
     
  6. sbjsbj

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    Well, I see red flags in your parenting and someone has to address it. I also gave you 2 useful advices about going to a lawyer and giving a reddit link, where you can do it for free. I think those advices are more useful than chit-chatting about your situation.

    No lawyer would tell you to go to the police in this case, they would tell your options what legal actions you can take against both parties. Obviously you need someone specialized in these matters and not an attorney for divorce or something.

    Also, you called me classy, so by definition, if I insulted you, you were the first one.
    Don't also think I oversaw the sarcastic comment 1 reply before, where you tried to throw a jab.

    Well, good luck to your daughter.
     
  7. Steve

    Steve Administrator

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    A police report or formal complaint to them should be the first thing done. Which Lisa mentioned she has done a few times.

    At any rate, you're insulting someone asking for help. It's not appreciated and won't be tolerated. Obviously you can't add much more to this discussion so please refrain from further replies.
     
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  8. zappaDPJ

    zappaDPJ Administrator

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    I've been in a similar situation but I don't think the steps I took to finish it are going to be of any help.

    I agree the UK police force are a waste of time.

    I confronted the parents face to face and made it clear what would happen if the bullying was to continue either in the real world or via social media. I made sure that I had backup from other parents whose children where aware of what was going on but not a part of it. In short I guess I made it clear that if the bullying didn't stop I would destroy any chance the perpetrators had of leading a normal life. It worked, they stopped.

    I think it unlikely any social media company is going to do much to help you unless you can convince an outside agency such as the ICO to fight your case. I would certainly consider making your daughter's school aware of what's happening.

    I wish I could be more helpful, I'm well aware of the hurt and damage these situations can cause. If I think of anything that might be of more help I'll post again.
     
  9. MagicalAzareal

    MagicalAzareal Magical Developer

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    YouTube can be notoriously difficult to contact. Raising a stink on Twitter or other sorts of media attention sometimes works, as it gets their attention.

    Some people on Google's Forums might be able to escalate it to YouTube Staff, but they rarely appear. There might be another way of getting in contact with them too, maybe through email? I recall there being email addresses to send things through, but this was a number of years ago.

    Maybe, you can tweet at them? I don't know if they monitor that account.

    This might also be useful:
    https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802027
    https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801999

    I upvoted the thread that you posted on those forums, I don't know if that'll give it more visibility, but hopefully it'll help.
     
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  11. Lisa

    Lisa Chaotically Proportional

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    I've tried contacting them on all avenues visibly available - no response. The links you've given (thanks, I appreciate you taking the time) I had and actually copied their list of "do not posts" inside the reports where they pertained to the content he was posting. No response there either.

    And thanks, I figured maybe someone within that actual area might have a contact method. Anything's worth a try at this point.
    I'm in the UK, so sadly I can't contact the FBI. The Action Fraud site doesn't cover what's happened, and they recommend.. yeah.. you guessed it... ring the police.

    It's a never ending circle of nothingness.
     
  12. mysiteguy

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    This isn't a situation with bad parenting, this is a situation where a good parent is trying to protect their child, not getting anywhere with the avenues she's tried and reaching out for help. Neither she nor her daughter is at fault, and your remarks are akin to victim blaming. Don't be a jerk, it doesn't help.
     
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  13. zappaDPJ

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    I was in London yesterday and as I got off the train at Kings Cross St. Pancras I saw this...

    https://www.google.com/maps/@51.533...=24.39669&pitch=0&thumbfov=100!7i16384!8i8192

    I doubt it's a realistic or practical method of contact but I wonder what would happen if you did walk in there with a complaint.
     
  14. we_are_borg

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    If he is using video footage without permission or any other image copyright strike his channel only strike one at the time 3 strikes and his channel is gone. Second ir first try contacting Lawful Masses Leonard French he is a lawyer in USA he might know how to handle this with YouTube. Second go to see a lawyer for a restraining order and how to handle, he might give his mother crap but restraining orders are no crap.

    b.t.w. Reddit r/legaladvice say you are UK based and whats going on there people there that are great with legal stuff they are not a joke.
     
  15. Lisa

    Lisa Chaotically Proportional

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    I could definitely see a roadtrip in my future. I'm not averse to turning up on the doorstep.

    Already been informed a restraining order would be a waste of time and money.

    I'll check them out, thanks :)
     
  16. cornnfedd

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    contacting the police is a waste of time.

    if youtube wont do anything, then I would suggest contacting a Lawyer, I just dont think you have any other choice.

    They could solve this pretty quickly with some nice legal looking letters. I know you said you cant afford a Lawyer, but I would suggest going to one and finding out what it will cost anyway, you need to follow all options if you want this issue solved.
     
  17. Lisa

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    First letter is a minimum of £500. I did get legal advice in December before I spoke to the police (speaking to the police over sending a letter was their advice).

    It's quite funny really (not really). When I originally spoke to the police, I spoke to a female officer and she was completely appalled by what was going on and felt there was a definite case to be followed. But then it was passed to her male sergeant whose comments included "well, he's not physically touched her yet, has he?", "She shouldn't be so sensitive", and other gems. I've never been one for going down the whole male-bashing route, but it did seem very much a case of every woman I spoke to was horrified and every male didn't give a flying ****. And, no, I know not all men are like that, I'm the first to argue against it, in fact. But it was definitely a very obvious split in the reactions of the "official" people I spoke to.

    Oh well, it is what it is.

    It was mentioned to me last night that the original videos YouTube took down in January are now back up, apparently because they make him money and give him views. So, I imagine he must have done something to them to allow them to be reuploaded. I'm not telling my daughter, nor looking at them to see what he's done.
     
  18. southernlady

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    A thought just occurred to me as an avenue to try.....see if you can find his ISP and report his activities to them.
     
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  19. Lisa

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    I've no way of finding that out. He posts solely on YouTube and nowhere else :(
     
  20. R0binHood

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    If they're backup you should report them again. It means he only made them private previously and didn't delete them.

    One of them seems to have private conversation screenshots with your daughter, perhaps you can get them pulled for that, I don't know.

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    I can't bear to watch any more of the whiney little twat, but it's a tough one because from what I have watched he's not posted anything purely vindictive and malicious, or doxxed her or anything, and he's mixed it in with content where he trys to portray himself as the victim. He's guilty of being a dick and causing a huge amount of mental anguish for you guys though, so you could argue it's bullying and try to get other people to report it under that premise. You need exact timestaps for the report though.

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    But he's also thriving off all the backlash and using it to make more content, so probably best not to comment or engage directly with him anymore in the comments.
     
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