Any options for a dead site with an unresponsive owner?

Discussion in 'Site Security & Legal Issues' started by haqzore, Aug 15, 2017.

  1. haqzore

    haqzore Habitué

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    This is my thought.

    Also - the rating was just for fun. Respect to the "elders", but I'm well aware of the postal service :p
     
  2. haqzore

    haqzore Habitué

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    Lots of comments against scraping, which I respect and agree with.

    I stated clearly in the OP that scraping wasn't something I was willing to do.

    To that point though, the members are all the ones encouraging me (actually asking me) to scrape the site.

    Who knows...


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  3. Alfa1

    Alfa1 Moderator

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    I would not scrape. But I would frequently submit the site to archive.org so nothing is lost.
     
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  4. Tracy Perry

    Tracy Perry Opinionated ass-hat

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    Yeah, some people don't understand sarcasm that well... but honestly, the good old postal service gets overlooked frequently because most people are used to PM/Email contact and it never dawns on them to write a good old fashioned letter on paper and send it.
     
  5. Digital Doctor

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    There is zero argument against scraping. What you do with it is another matter.
     
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  6. ManagerJosh

    ManagerJosh Adherent

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    Not a lawyer,

    But my understanding is that scraping a site for /personal/ consumption isn't illegal.
     
  7. feldon30

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    Going to buck the trend of what people are saying above. You should ABSOLUTELY scrape the other forum and then hang onto those files until that forum dies. When it does, put them up as an archive. Copyright law was never intended to make sure content just winks out of existence, lost forever. Just the opposite. Copyright is a limited time exclusive ownership to encourage creators. It has since been distorted into the monster it is now. It is making life a living hell for librarians and custodians who want to preserve abandoned works.

    Absentee forum landlords is a BIG problem, and the idea that nothing can or should be done is absurd. The OP of this thread went above and beyond trying to contact the owners. They DO NOT CARE. Forum Admins better start realizing that it is their USERS that make a forum successful or we're going to see forums completely disappear and social media completely replace the category.

    If you shoot me a forum message I can provide further details of the scraper I've written. I have salvaged over 1 million posts from various forums before they were shuttered. Have yet to get an e-mail demanding I remove an archive.
     
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  8. Elliot02

    Elliot02 Aspirant

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    I would scrape before they are offline, and then figure out what you want to do with that data.
     
  9. highlander29

    highlander29 Enthusiast

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    I wouldn't assume prepaid. It could be that the hosting is set up for automated payments every month and depending on how much they have in the account and what the hosting fees are, payments could be made for a very long time. It's entirely possible they have changed their email address and aren't getting your emails. I would google the email addresses you have for the owner of the forum and domain and see if you can find out who they are. The postal mail is a good idea as well.
     
  10. Starskull

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    I'd scrape it just have the data and what visitors want to talk about...Post something similar to an old post and see if it gains traction on your forum. If the owner is letting it die, there isn't much you can do other than scraping and trying to get the members to follow you to a new site. Heck if the admins and mods are non responsive. Make a post saying you are making a new forum and want them to join you...since it wont be moderated and if you don't care to break the TOS if they have one against it...then what have you got to lose other than your account on said forum?
     
  11. haqzore

    haqzore Habitué

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    Already did this ;)

    The new site is already up and running. I just don't want to lose the info from the old site.
     
  12. Starskull

    Starskull Enthusiast

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    Awesome! Glad you could at least get the members a better home :D

    Mind PMing me the site. I'd like to check it out. In addition...I'm only about an hour away from you. I'm in Lexington.
     
  13. haqzore

    haqzore Habitué

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    I'd rather not share the site just yet.
     
  14. Starskull

    Starskull Enthusiast

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    Fair enough. I can see why though. Best of luck with it and when you are able. Please share.
     
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