Apple seems ready to let iPhone users block all ads they see on the web

Robust

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Correct, but you missed the point.
The comparison should be like this:
Once you enter an Apple store, are you in some way used or forced? No.
But once you enter a website, you are automatically used and forced to their monetisation process.

You still can leave the Apple store without buying its products and you are not used somehow.
But once I visit a website, it is done. If I leave 2 seconds later, use the content or not, makes no difference. I already am used without my notice.

So once you enter an Apple store and leave without buying, Apple hasn't earned a single dime off you.
But once I enter a website, the website earned money, even if I don't use the website.
I don't understand you at all - you find it bad that websites make money off people? So you don't want someone to make money off you, even if it comes at no harm to you? I can't think of a word to describe your thinking honestly. Why don't you flip the tables though. You enter an Apple store, you're wasting their space in their store. You're using the time of their employees, since usually there are 100 of them and a few approach you asking if you need a hand etc. I dunno what else, maybe you result in cleaning needing to be done later, little bits of fluff (yeah I know this point is stupid, but it's less stupid than "ads using up my resources wow my rams and cpus"). For a website, your using their resources. Their servers have to serve content to you. Bandwidth, emails, perhaps the amount of resources after many users results in another node needed to have a round robin setup. Even a non-paying user causes the site to have to pay more, while Apple doesn't have to pay as much for you entering and leaving their store.

Regarding HMRC, you need to declare your business. Even if you make $0.01. You're legally required to declare your business. You can declare yourself as (many types, but the most "basic") a sole trader or a limited company. A sole trader needs his address submitted, as well as the trading name and the name of the person. DOB and some other info as well as your National Insurance Number afaik. A limited company requires a registered company address (usually same as the first director), at least 1 director and 1 shareholder. These also need their address, DOB, etc. At least the director does, not sure about the shareholder. Again, this discussion is really off what it was even about. It was about something else completely and now we're arguing HMRC and CH, EU law and analogies about Apple and websites.
 

davemacc

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Neither Apple nor the ad-blocker companies are doing this for any altruistic reasons.

They have identified either a revenue or marketing opportunity and will exploit that. I highly doubt that Apple will allow any software on it's carefully controlled devices that blocks its own iAd service.

Some ad-blocker software white lists ads that it find acceptable, acceptable includes a percentage kickback.

So essentially when you use this software you are supporting large multinationals rather then small website owners.:unsure:
 

zappaDPJ

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So far ad-blockers have proved easy to detect and deal with, hopefully it'll be the same for this one.
 

Joeychgo

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Maybe this is a sign that responsive styles aren't the best way to go, but an app might be better. I dunno
 

cheat_master30

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I'd bet it gets worked around in a couple of days at most. I mean, by definition, this is an unwinnable war, you can't ever find a solution that 100% beats ad blockers because of how they work.

As for what happens if ads did go away... well, at least it'd kick the companies out of the internet. Good for some markets at least.
 
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