Easy and simple registration

Alpha1

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I think there are 3 things to keep in mind here:
  1. keep spam bots out
  2. make it easy for valid users to register quickly
  3. keep low quality users out (human spammers, trolls, etc)
You can do 1 by using various scripts to catch spam bots. And number 2 can also be done.
But any attempt to make it easier to register will increase human spammers, trolls and other issues. The more users have to fill in in the registration process the easier it is to filter problematic users out.

It would be nice to find a way to do 1, 2 AND 3.
 

ozzy47

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So far, 1 and 2 are done with the one mod.

Human spammers is going to be in phase two. I don't see how you would block trolls with a script though, without possibly hindering regular users.
 

Anton Chigurh

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49,174 from my two sites since mid February.

One of those sites HAS a stage 2 prototype.
 

Empire

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Let's explore more ideas. How about no email system, like on Reddit. Look how simple Reddit is, no email is even required.

Is there a system on Vbulletin that we can do captcha and no email?
 

ozzy47

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No need to, I have ran every one of them, and they all have their own issues, that is why Spaminator was born. :)
 

eldritch1969

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Funny.
I make registration as hard as I can. People are required to choose their location, gender, and also an avatar.
They must choose the 'i am no bot answer', plus a captcha. They are sent an email after approval.
At least spammers stay away, and people feel like they have 'earned' membership. :D
 

Ebla

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Funny.
I make registration as hard as I can. People are required to choose their location, gender, and also an avatar.
They must choose the 'i am no bot answer', plus a captcha. They are sent an email after approval.
At least spammers stay away, and people feel like they have 'earned' membership. :D

Dang, you make them work for it.
 

Alpha1

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Funny.
I make registration as hard as I can. People are required to choose their location, gender, and also an avatar.
They must choose the 'i am no bot answer', plus a captcha. They are sent an email after approval.
At least spammers stay away, and people feel like they have 'earned' membership. :D
How many mandatory custom fields do you have?
 

eldritch1969

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Just the usual, plus avatar, location (they get a small flag of their country in posts and profile) I also had questions to answer, but I dropped them because they were too hard.
Of course harder registration can deter prospective members, but I recently trimmed more than 700 inactive members. What's the point of keeping high numbers except vanity ?
 

ozzy47

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Funny.
I make registration as hard as I can. People are required to choose their location, gender, and also an avatar.
They must choose the 'i am no bot answer', plus a captcha. They are sent an email after approval.
At least spammers stay away, and people feel like they have 'earned' membership. :D

That would be a site I would X out in my browser as soon as I saw all that malarkey on the registration page.
 

ozzy47

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Just the usual, plus avatar, location (they get a small flag of their country in posts and profile) I also had questions to answer, but I dropped them because they were too hard.
Of course harder registration can deter prospective members, but I recently trimmed more than 700 inactive members. What's the point of keeping high numbers except vanity ?

What is the point in trimming them?
 

Sysnative

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Why would you want to make registration difficult? Inactive user accounts don't do any harm, but failing to gain new active members sure does...
 

eldritch1969

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So getting new inactive users is worth it ?
My point is when something is difficult to get, it becomes more valuable in the eyes of the person. My new members are more active compared to the preious ones.
Besides, I'm on shared hosting and I was near the limit for the database. A trimming down of users gave me some more space.
I still think most admins like big user number to pretend their forum is successful. I am only interested in good and useful content.
That's what matters, not a lot of inactive accounts.
 

BirdOPrey5

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If you had to delete users to save on database size you're in serious need of a better plan. A single post can take up as many as a thousand usernames... that isn't really buying you any time.

There is no downside to have lots of inactive users, but there is a downside to deleting the account of even one person who may have returned to post.

I don't personally trim users. When I get an email bounceback from their birthday greeting then I ban or delete the account depending on if they had any previous posts. (If they had posts they get banned with a notice to contact me to update their email, and if they never posted I usually just delete the account freeing up the username for others.)
 
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