Some loser registered, spammed everywhere, and threatened me

Kamex

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I banned him immediatly. Was this the right thing to do? Here's the PM I got from him before I did this:

From: HappyGoGetter
Subject: Doom

Good afternoon kind sir, reporting from the seminole library, I am going to use the name Clairoll and reign terror unto you. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Doom and stuff.

The thing that confuses me is that I used to know a guy named clarrel. He was my best friend and we did everything together, but then he stole a members account and used it to pm me telling me to delete it. I saw clarrel's ip in the victom's ip list, and it was clearly his, so I banned him. To this day, he proclaims his innocence.

In this case, it may just be someone pretending to be him. I don't remember how to spell his name, but I don't think it's spelled that way. I live in Florida, and I live in seminole country, so if this guy is telling the truth about his location, he could show up at my house...

Anyone have any idea what the hell is going on here?
 

Ted S

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Ban the ip, warn your moderators, keep an eye on new signups and move on with your life. Bad users belong on a ban list, not on your mind.
 

zero

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dont sweat it, people do this all the time on the internet.

I had a dude who threatened to come to colorado and kick my ass and post pics. Which in my opinion would have been just fine, if he could have made it to colorado, then made it through the nieghborhood, then found my house, he would have had me and my nine to deal with.
 

Kamex

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Guess who I just got a call from: Clarrel. He called to tell me that he noticed a member had been posting suspicious stuff, and stressed that the person had misspelt his name (he pointed this out over and over). He called me only a few hours after it happened, even though he claims, when I inquired, that he only checks the board every 2-3 months. This is the last time he's called me in over 2 years, with the exception of a few months ago, when he asked if he could borrow my gameboy...

I strongly believe its him, but I don't have any proof. The problem is that I can't move on with my life. This guy won't leave me alone! And my brother is still friends with him, so occasionally, he comes over to my house! What on earth am I going to do!

Tomorrow, I'm going to head over to the library to see if that is indeed where the IP came from.
 

zero

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this is the second time ive had to post this in as many minutes. What is the internet coming to?!

ass kicking. Some people just understand no other language.
 

Kamex

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Please forgive me if I don't understand you, but are you saying I should beat him up? I am not strong enough to hurt him.

I can't warn my brother about this because the first thing he'll do is go tell Clarrel everything he's not supposed to know. So I just to hope Clarrel doesn't ask to sleep over.
 

Marie

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I think what zero is trying to tell you is to not let this kid bother you. To me, it's obivious he's just trying to play games on you. Don't let it get to you. Just ignore it.
 

jema

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You get all sorts of attention seeking nutters. I had one once whose "brother" posted to announce the death of said "nutter" in a road accident.

Posting on the sympathy thread that people should treat this with suspicion won me few friends, it was months before nutter returned with the story that he had been out of the Country and it was a malicious plot by someone or other
:banana:

You just have to develop a bit of a thick skin.
 

JB1989

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An associate of mine who I run a forum with was recently threatened by the admins of a forum involved in hacking and piracy. I felt it could effect the forum I help run so I reported the forum to anti-piracy groups and the FBI.

If your being threatened, I would try and dig some dirt on the person who's threatening you.

Jimbob
 

zero

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Marie said:
I think what zero is trying to tell you is to not let this kid bother you. To me, it's obivious he's just trying to play games on you. Don't let it get to you. Just ignore it.

actually, I was telling him to rough the kid up a bit. But your idea is good too.

by the way kamex, how old are you?
 

Kamex

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I am 17. My birthday is May 02, 1987.

Normally, I would just ban his IP and forget about him, but this is also a bit of a local problem.

We originally met at my brother's party when I was around 13 or 14 . I quickly became very good friends with Clarrel. So good, in fact, that I would invite him over frequently, sometimes for regular visits, sometimes for sleepovers. We seemed to share our opinion on just about every subject, which made him a great friend.

Clarrel went to a board I owned at the time about Gaming and Anime. I made him a staff member, because I felt he was a really good person. When the board got out of control, he eventually lost his temper too over the fact that people weren't following the rules, but I reasoned that he was only human, and didn't think much of it. That board eventually was destroyed by its own people, as all the nice people left and all the bad people got sick of eachother. I never punished anyone on that board, not once.

When I made a new board, this time, for homeschoolers, I did not invite Clarrel because he was not a homescooler. I didn't want to hurt my friend's feelings, so I just didn't tell him about the board. It wasn't long before he found out, however, so I let him join.

When one of my members, Stubborn, sent me a PM telling me to delete her account as soon as possible, I was indeed suspicious that it was not her, but the thought that it was Clarrel that had done it hadn't even crossed my mind. I was shocked and amazed when the IP results clearly stated that he had accessed her account. Because his IPs looked so different from hers, there was no question it was him, and although I felt horrible about it. I had to ban him. What made it even worse was that he hasn't ever admitted to doing this, not then, not now. Despite this incident, our friendship did not end immediaty. In fact, it continued for some time. The only problem was that Clarrel kept asking me to come back to the board, until I had to get my Dad to tell him to stop harrassing me, but even that did not stop me from hanging out with him, which, at that point, it really should have.

One day, I invited him for a sleepover, and I went to sleep while he played on my computer (its in my room). Now, what you have to understand is that while I am now a Firefox fanatic and a Linux user, I did not know of any alternatives at the time. I had IE and Windows, but I did have an antivirus and firewall.

Well, when I woke up in the morning, I had tons of parasites in my computer, all of them involving pornography. Clarrel pretended that they must have been there before, but I knew for a fact that my computer was clean the day before. I tried to get rid of the garbage, but it was stuck on my system perminently, and nothing could erase it. Because I no longer trusted Clarrel, I checked my history, and got a detailed account of what pages he had visited at what time. Apparently, he had spent a good 3-4 hours looking at porn on my computer. I also noticed that my antivirus and firewall had been disabled. He told me that he had disabled the antivirus and firewall, because an innocent webpage had needed them off, but I didn't believe him. I also didn't believe him when he claimed he didn't look at anything dirty with my computer, because the IE history proved otherwise.

Guess what? I was still friends with him, even after that. However, we began to talk to eachother less, and eventually we stopped talking altogether. The only time he has contacted me since was almost 2 years later to ask if he could borrow my gameboy. Naturally, I told him no, but I wasn't rude about it or anything.

Now, the whole time, he's been friends with my brother has remained friends with him. My brother believes that Clarrel never impersonated Stubborn, and believes a hacker must have faked the IP to impersonate him, which is Clarrel's explaination for what happened. He also believes that Clarrel didn't look at the pornography on my computer, even though Clarrel doesn't even have an explaination for that. From what I can tell, he would trust Clarrel with his life, and he gets very angry when I bring up the subject of Clarrel. I haven't told my brother about this incident because he'd go and tell Clarrel everything I don't want Clarrel to know, which naturally makes this an even bigger stress.

I also suspect Clarrel was stealing my computer games from my room when he came over, but I never had any proof about that (although it was remarkably odd that I had to rebuy most of my games eventually because they weren't in the house).

My point is, I am concerned that this kid is going to hassle me the next time Scott is over, so I can't just shove this under the rug like I could with anyone else. That's why I'm trying to, as JB1989 put it, "dig up dirt on him".

This HappyGoGetter guy, is, according to Clarrel, the person who really impersonated Stubborn. Why would someone register on my board just to incriminate themselves, and why would they use a library computer if they were capable of faking IPs? I went over to the library, and sure enough, it was indeed the library computer that was used. When I asked for records, they told me that they keep none, and that anyone can walk in and do whatever the hell they like with the computer, including threatening people, getting the computer infected with IE malware, etc. I am going to talk to the guy in charge of the computers over there, as I made them give me his phone number. So we'll see if I can at least have something good come out of all of this by getting him to start keeping records.
 

biagrin

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friends grow apart as they grow up - its just a fact of life - this dude sounds like a total loser. forget about him and move on.

i had a friend like that and there is word for people like them "compulsive liar". if i ever met him id punch his lights out. your brother is even more stupid for defending him. it sounds like he is too scared to tell this guy to get lost.

as far as im concerned, the little loser is responsible for all the troubles you have. if someone rang me up after 2 years asking to borrow my gameboy or anything else for that matter i would give them some serious abuse.

personally i would ban him and everbody who knows him.

i know its hard but you just have to live your own life and ignore the sad goings on of someone like that. he'll soon disappear.
 

Slaine

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Just sounds like he's being a bit of a pillock, just ignore him it's the easiest way.

They always get bored and annoy someone else.
 

Lugh

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Might be a good idea to move this thread out of public view, there are a few personally identifiable items in it. Especially if you use the name Kamex on other boards.

You should password protect your computer [and screensaver if you use one] and maybe disable floppy booting in the BIOS. That should cover you from any casual access while you're not around.
 
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