Kevin

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Just paid my invoice for the next year.... an extra $72 a year with my Cloud3 plan. Honestly, for me at least, $6/month is well worth it to me to just pay that instead of using my time switching to & learning a different control panel.

Now I'm just hoping that IPS runs some kind of discount this year before I spend a small fortune on picking the entire IPS suite for a new project. :(
 

JonathanW

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Just paid my invoice for the next year.... an extra $72 a year with my Cloud3 plan. Honestly, for me at least, $6/month is well worth it to me to just pay that instead of using my time switching to & learning a different control panel.

Now I'm just hoping that IPS runs some kind of discount this year before I spend a small fortune on picking the entire IPS suite for a new project. :(

Awesome :) We're happy to have ya!

Why not convert to XenForo?
 

Kevin

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Awesome :) We're happy to have ya!
:thumb:
Why not convert to XenForo?
I already have about a dozen XF licenses with a few active sites (see sig) but I'm looking at starting an entirely new project from scratch. For this particular project for what I have mind the IPS pages & databases capability will be put to use along with the calendar and maybe some stuff like the commerce items (not sure yet). As much as I love XF and try to support the guys I'm at the point where I know for what I want to do I'd need to use an incredible amount of 3rd party add-ons and I'd rather be 'hands-off' on this one by using as much 1st party offerings as I can. If there was an XFS (XenForo Suite) I'd be using that instead but, alas, my needs this time are making me go with IPS.
 

JonathanW

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I already have about a dozen XF licenses with a few active sites (see sig) but I'm looking at starting an entirely new project from scratch. For this particular project for what I have mind the IPS pages & databases capability will be put to use along with the calendar and maybe some stuff like the commerce items (not sure yet). As much as I love XF and try to support the guys I'm at the point where I know for what I want to do I'd need to use an incredible amount of 3rd party add-ons and I'd rather be 'hands-off' on this one by using as much 1st party offerings as I can. If there was an XFS (XenForo Suite) I'd be using that instead but, alas, my needs this time are making me go with IPS.

Dang that's too bad :(
 

Nabix

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Although I haven't used cPanel in awhile. Been using VestCP for the time being. The price increase is ridiculous. It has gotten to a point where they are pushing out aspiring webmasters with already high prices in other fields. Not to mention making sales slightly more difficult for web host providers.

All well, the increases will only push others to pursue different control panels.
 

SteveAR

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I definitely felt it. I was paying 13.99 a month for it and now it jumped to 30$ bucks. time to find a good alternative
 

Jim McClain

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But I have 5 accounts, each with their own cPanel and I have 2 more IP addresses that could be used for 2 more accounts.
Just $12 for the entire server.
... And I don't know if the new IP addresses will mean more work & worry for me.
So far, the move to the new server has gone fairly smooth, but I was right to worry about the IP address issues. I wasn't told beforehand that I would loose 2 of my IP address. I knew all IPs would change, but now I have only 5 IP addys where before I had 7 - room to grow. I have been giving serious consideration to reopening an old site I had on the old server, but I removed because I didn't have the patience for it. Luke at KnownHost has tried to explain, but it all just flies over my head.

There was a little confusion about using thefloorpro.com for the host name instead of enterprisejm.com. I'm not sure if they knew that from the start that they would have set up thefloorpro with the first available IP address, but that seemed logical to me. That wasn't what happened though. As I tried to explain to Luke, I am struggling to find a better solution to sending email from my forum to all my members that use Microsoft domain email addresses (hotmail, msn, live, et al). Those bastigens have bounced my email notifications to members off and on for years, no matter how many hoops I jump through to fix their issues.

Anyway, maybe I'm just stressing more than I should. A night's sleep may be all I need. But I know I'll wake up wishing I had those other 2 IP addresses - or at least one of them.
 

VoXX

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DirectAdmin....give it a chance and I bet you'll be pleased.

I would recommend DirectAdmin. Switched one server from cpanel to DA and it was about the least painful thing I've done recently. Usually, do this sort of migration would be a mind field of problems. lol But my experience was very good, but that also depends on your hosting provider. I have had a smooth cpanel -> DA migration using Jonesolution. Next up is doing the same with a second server on Knownhost. Hopefully I'll have the same problem free migration with KH. ;-)
 

JonathanW

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I wasn't told beforehand that I would loose 2 of my IP address.

That's my fault, I failed to mention that :( It's due to the way we're doing VLANs and subnetting on the new network. Technically speaking 8 IPs are still dedicated to your server but only 5 are usable.

Luke at KnownHost has tried to explain, but it all just flies over my head.

What he explained is the technically accurate answer. There's 0 real reason to use a dedicated IP per site these days - used to the reason was for SSL but that justification died years ago as technology and browsers advanced and now we have SNI. Now you can run 100000 sites on one IP if you want with no real ill-effects (mail aside, but that's not what we're talking about here).

Anyway, maybe I'm just stressing more than I should. A night's sleep may be all I need. But I know I'll wake up wishing I had those other 2 IP addresses - or at least one of them.

If you really miss those two (technically you lost 3 usable) I can give you a block of 8 more at no extra cost. That's what we're doing for folk that miss those extra 3 when moving to the new facility.
 

Jim McClain

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If you really miss those two (technically you lost 3 usable) I can give you a block of 8 more at no extra cost. That's what we're doing for folk that miss those extra 3 when moving to the new facility.
If things are the way you and Luke explained them, then I don't really need the extra IPs. I guess I just need to catch up to the technology.

Even with the stress of this change, I'm really glad I'm on KnownHost. You, Luke and everyone else have been just great. I'm just a little guy in the grand scheme of it all, but all of you have treated me like I'm just as valued as the big guys. I'm a small town guy most of my life and that's how we treat each other here in Quincy, CA. It's a good feeling, thanks.
 

JonathanW

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If things are the way you and Luke explained them, then I don't really need the extra IPs. I guess I just need to catch up to the technology.

Even with the stress of this change, I'm really glad I'm on KnownHost. You, Luke and everyone else have been just great. I'm just a little guy in the grand scheme of it all, but all of you have treated me like I'm just as valued as the big guys. I'm a small town guy most of my life and that's how we treat each other here in Quincy, CA. It's a good feeling, thanks.

I'm glad you feel that way :) We're mostly just a group of bama boys and gals so we know a thing or two about hospitality ;)
 

serverbasket

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cPanel has shaken the web hosting community with its recent price rise announcement. They have changed their pricing model from per-server pricing to a per-account model. So if you're a cPanel partner and were paying $11 per cPanel license for each server and running 1,000 websites, you'll now have to pay $122
 

Study Force

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It's unreal, the price inflation on this software makes very little sense to me. I used cPanel for a while, and while it made managing a dedicated server easier, for a techy (which most of us are), you could easily get away with using Webmin/Virtualmin instead. In fact, I feel cPanel is a dressed up Webmin, though the themes for the latter are getting better and better with each update. All-in-all, cPanel is not worth it
 
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davert

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CPanel lets you do a lot of stuff from the GUI that Webmin does not, and the organization is less confusing. It's far, far easier on the people actually running the web sites, too, for the same reason. Software updates and installation is easier. That's why I gave up on Webmin many years ago. If I did site admin full-time, it would be another story, and I wouldn't mind the command line and config file editing.
 
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