Bob's Add-on For Articles (AMS) was the best thing that i did to my XF Forum

xenporta is great but the main issue is the poor support (which I have experienced first hand) its a slight blight on a great bit of code but still worth considering.

Taylor J said:

How does AMS compare to Resource Manager? Isn't one an article system and the other for having a place to sell/download/upload different addons, or what ever your site offers?

Sorry I haven't been around awhile but AMS probably has a feature to do the same I'm just unaware and would like to know more.

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You can ask Bob on his site if you want a detailed answer.

And you can use ShowCase as a replacement for the Resource Manager. That suits better than AMS.

The RM is just a product which is 6-7 years old and hasn't seen any noticable progress since then. I would rather go with XenPorta than with RM.

You can turn SC/AMS almost into anything. Whatever your niche/need is whereas RM is inflexible and works only for 1 special particular case and that not even good.

sbjsbj said:

The RM is just a product which is 6-7 years old and hasn't seen any noticable progress since then. I would rather go with XenPorta than with RM.

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What? This statement reminds me of:



Development progress aside, if someone needed the requirements of the RM why in the world would you ever suggest XenPorta? They simply are two entirely different products.

Russ said:

What? This statement reminds me of:

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What what?

Russ said:

Development progress aside, if someone needed the requirements of the RM why in the world would you ever suggest XenPorta?

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The key point here is IF...

If someone needed the requirements of the RM, yeah, go with RM. Did I say otherwise?

RM, SC/AMS and XenPorta all can be used to display pages. That is the essential feature. In the base core all are the same. You can create a page and display your item/product/entry or whatever. The RM also has a download feature, just like the SC for example. But you can also paste your articles into the RM, just like you can do it into SC/AMS or XenPorta. Like you can showcase your cars in all of those 3 addons or publish the latest gaming news or whatever.

In that regard I would rather go with XenPorta than with RM. What is hard to understand here?

You act like I compared the RM with a chat addon or whatever.

sbjsbj said:

You act like I compared the RM with a chat addon or whatever.

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No, I'm acting like you're comparing an add-on that's a single portal page which features threads from the forum to a plugin that primarily handles a list of downloads. And.... that makes zero sense, but carry on .

As for Bob's add-ons, nothing but good things to say about them. Currently working on a site which uses quite a few of his add-ons and I'm really happy about the progress being made.

Russ said:

No, I'm acting like you're comparing an add-on that's a single portal page which features threads from the forum to a plugin that primarily handles a list of downloads. And.... that makes zero sense, but carry on .

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I disagree. RM is not primarily which handles a list of downloads. The name suggests that and XF uses it like that, but the primary part is not the handling downloads in my eyes. It primarily displays items. In XF's case it displays downloads. You can find a description of the addons with images.
Just like I said, the primary thing is displaying pages.

You could take this page:
https://8wayrun.com/threads/namco-bandai-announces-amy-for-next-dlc.20824/

And paste it into the RM under the relevant category.

All of them basically does the same job. Displaying stuff. I have seen many sites in the past who used the RM for everything other than for managing downloads. They used it as a basic articles system. Or showcasing stuff. Or even products. Again, displaying pages is the primary thing here.

So to say "that makes zero sense" is far fetched.

We'll agree to disagree, I can't see myself telling a client who has the needs of the RM "But have you seen XenPorta"?

Vice versa, they simply serve two different purposes. I'd assume the actual authors of each would tell you the same.

True story!

Love the add on, and his support is superb!

Russ said:

We'll agree to disagree, I can't see myself telling a client who has the needs of the RM "But have you seen XenPorta"?

Vice versa, they simply serve two different purposes. I'd assume the actual authors of each would tell you the same.

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This is why I was so confused and asked in the first place. In my head I was wondering why anyone would use an article system as a resource download manager.

Taylor J said:

This is why I was so confused and asked in the first place. In my head I was wondering why anyone would use an article system as a resource download manager.

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AMS = Article Management System, the name is pretty self-explanatory. Featured packed with great support.

RM = Resource Manager handles resources. Great for organizing downloads, guides, e-books, tutorials ect. It comes with a few widgets you can use to showcase items from it around the site. I've seen some creative uses for this but I don't see it as a proper article system at all.

XenPorta = According to Jaxel: "XenPorta is an article system and front-end that allows you to give a more professional look to the front-facing sections of your forum". I think it's missing a lot of functionality to call it an "article system" personally but if you just need a nice simple page to feature content it could be a good solution. ThemeHouse also has a new featured threads add-on which includes a page to showcase the featured items, but I haven't used it personally.

I think they each have their own rather unique purposes that they serve.

Russ said:

We'll agree to disagree, I can't see myself telling a client who has the needs of the RM "But have you seen XenPorta"?

Vice versa, they simply serve two different purposes. I'd assume the actual authors of each would tell you the same.

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But that is literally what happened here in this thread. If you read the first post of this thread, the TO's original thread was this:

https://theadminzone.com/threads/in...-resource-manager-wordpress-situation.151053/

As you see most people don't look out for RM because of its "managing downloads" capabilities. They look for a CMS.
CMS is a very powerful word, I don't like to use that word. I call it "displaying pages".

Literally I suggested right after ShowCase to the TO and literally 7 messages later Poet suggested XenPorta.

And since you are in this thread, you have read this thread, you see that the TO went with AMS and decided against RM.

So it is no way far fetched. Yes, if someone explicitly needs the features of the RM, go with RM. But what % of the sites actually provide resources to download and need to handle that?

Taylor J said:

This is why I was so confused and asked in the first place. In my head I was wondering why anyone would use an article system as a resource download manager.

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Resource Manager is actually a misnomer in this case. The RM can't only be used to manage downloads/resources. It can be used beyond that. That is what most people look into it. You can use it as an articles system. Nobody says you have to provide downloads.

The complete "Xenforo tips & guides" section in the RM is basically exactly that. See for yourself:

https://xenforo.com/community/resources/categories/xenforo-tips-guides-2-x.43/

No downloads to manage here. Just basic pages to display stuff, in this case tutorials or tips. So basically an articles system for a "how to".

Just like I say the basic premise is "to display stuff". Whatever you call it. The RM has on top of that downloading thing, but that is not necessarily. Though the name suggests that which is why I say it is a misnomer.

sbjsbj said:

So it is no way far fetched. Yes, if someone explicitly needs the features of the RM, go with RM. But what % of the sites actually provide resources to download and need to handle that

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The RM was conceived for the sole purpose to organize XF.com resources and what people did with it or thought it could do beyond that was left to interpretation. Some seem to think it can be a good candidate for articles, well it really isn’t.

A (IMO) CMS is any system that handles content, it’s just not solely Wordpress or AMS.

Steve said:

The RM was conceived for the sole purpose to organize XF.com resources and what people did with it or thought it could do beyond that was left to interpretation.

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I completely agree with you. It is tailored for XF and what people did with it is their thingy. That is why...

Steve said:

Some seem to think it can be a good candidate for articles, well it really isn’t.

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...I say that RM is useless for most people. Because I again agree with you, it really isn't a good candidate for articles or anything really. It is tailored for XF, basically the same thing for 6-7 years with no advancements.

And since most people (in my experience) don't explicitly have a need to manage downloads, but need basic "displaying pages" features. I would never go with RM, not in this current version. They need to enhance their product lines massively to be in consideration. Again, unless you need exactly the feature set of a RM (which almost nobody does honestly, I haven't seen one good example where someone made a good use of RM).

Still appears like a traditional age old site.... (if you accept criticisms)..
Vb/XenF never worked there way beyond..

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Any consideration as to what XF CMS solution is better for SEO?

Bob is an excellent developer and he provides quality and secure add ons. I would recommed his add ons to everyone.

I'd compare XenPorta with Article thread types with XF 2.2 out now as posts are essentially that—threads, as you could seriously jazz them up with custom fields and template edits to be like 8wr. That said, I bought it, installed it, had a question and got 0 support. It's not even worth my time to sell, so I'd give my license away if transferrable.

AMS on the other hand more like WordPress as it's so robust in functionality. Bob being there for support, no matter the stupidest question, is a bonus.